In this episode, Rishi Gulati is in conversation with Raffael Fasel and Sean Butler on the topic of animal rights. Raffael Fasel and Sean Butler co-founded the Cambridge Centre for Animal Rights Law. Their book Animal Rights Law (Hart, 2023) is the first text book on the issue in the world. The discussion traverses a range of topics, including current framework on animal protection, animal rights, legal personality, and the future of the field. This is a must listen for all those interested in this area.